Petronilla (?)

F
Name TypeDateDescription
Married NameHer married name was de Beaumont.

Children of Petronilla (?) and Robert de Beaumont

Simon IV de Montfort

M, b. 1160, d. 25 June 1218
Father*Simon III de Montfort
Mother*Amicia de Beaumont
     Simon IV de Montfort, Seigneur de Montfort-l'Amaury, 5th Earl of Leicester (1160 – 25 June 1218), also known as Simon de Montfort the elder, was a French nobleman who took part in the Fourth Crusade (1202–1204) and was a prominent leader of the Albigensian Crusade. He died at the siege of Toulouse in 1218.

He was the son of Simon III de Montfort, lord of Montfort l'Amaury in France near Paris, and Amicia de Beaumont, daughter of Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester - the de Montfort line itself descends from the Counts of Flanders. He succeeded his father as Baron de Montfort in 1181; in 1190 he married Alix de Montmorency, the daughter of Bouchard III de Montmorency. In 1191 his brother, Guy, left on the Third Crusade in the retinue of King Philip II of France.

In 1199, while taking part in a tournament at Ecry-sur-Aisne, he heard Fulk of Neuilly preaching the crusade, and in the company of Count Thibaud de Champagne, he took the cross. The crusade soon fell under Venetian control, and was diverted to Zara on the Adriatic Sea. Pope Innocent III had specifically warned the Crusaders not to attack fellow Christians; Simon tried to reassure the citizens of Zara that there would be no attack, but nevertheless, the city was sacked in 1202. Simon did not participate in this action and was one of its most outspoken critics. He and his associates, including Abbot Guy of Vaux-de-Cernay, soon left the Crusade altogether from Zara and traveled to King Emico of Hungary's territory.[1] Afterwards, under Venetian guidance, the Crusaders sacked the city of Constantinople—the main trading rival to Venice.

His mother was the eldest daughter of Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester. After the death of her brother Robert de Beaumont, 4th Earl of Leicester without children in 1204, she inherited half of his estates, and a claim to the Earldom of Leicester. The division of the estates was effected early in 1207, by which the rights to the earldom were assigned to Amicia and Simon. However, King John of England took possession of the lands himself in February 1207, and confiscated its revenues. Later, in 1215, the lands were passed into the hands of Simon's cousin, Ranulph de Meschines, 4th Earl of Chester.1

Children of Simon IV de Montfort and Alix de Montmorency

Citations

  1. [S369] Encyclopedia website, by compilation, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_de_Montfort,_5th_Earl_of_Leicester.

Alix de Montmorency

F
Name TypeDateDescription
Name VariationAlix de Montmorency was also known as Alice.
Married NameHer married name was de Montfort.

Children of Alix de Montmorency and Simon IV de Montfort

Simon de Montfort

M, b. 23 May 1208, d. 4 August 1265
Father*Simon IV de Montfort b. 1160, d. 25 Jun 1218
Mother*Alix de Montmorency
     Simon de Montfort, 6th Earl of Leicester (23 May 1208 – 4 August 1265), was a French-English nobleman, notable as the principal leader of the baronial opposition to King Henry III of England. After the rebellion of 1263 and 1264, de Montfort became de facto ruler of England and called the first directly elected parliament in medieval Europe. For this reason, de Montfort is regarded today as one of the progenitors of modern parliamentary democracy.

He was the youngest son of Simon de Montfort, a French nobleman and crusader, and Alix de Montmorency. His paternal grandmother was Amicia de Beaumont, the senior co-heiress to the Earldom of Leicester and a large estate owned by her father Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester in England, but King John of England would not allow a French subject to take ownership of such an estate in England.

As a boy, de Montfort accompanied his parents during his father's campaigns against the Cathars. He was with his mother at the siege of Toulouse in 1218, where his father was killed after being struck on the head by a stone pitched by a mangonel. On the death of their father, de Montfort's elder brother Amaury succeeded him. Another brother, Guy, was killed at the siege of Castelnaudary in 1220. As a young man, Montfort probably took part in the Albigensian Crusades of the early 1220s.

In 1229 the two surviving brothers (Amaury and Simon) came to an arrangement whereby Simon gave up his rights in France and Amaury gave up his rights in England. Thus free from any allegiance to the King of France, de Montfort successfully petitioned for the English inheritance, which he received the next year, although he did not take full possession for several years, and was not formally recognised as earl.

Simon was a distant cousin of King Henry III; his ancestor Simon I de Montfort was father of Bertrade de Montfort who herself was a paternal great-grandmother of King Henry II.

In January 1238 de Montfort married Eleanor of England, daughter of King John and Isabella of Angouleme and sister of King Henry III. While this marriage took place with the king's approval, the act itself was performed secretly and without consulting the great barons, as a marriage of such importance warranted. Eleanor had previously been married to William Marshal, 2nd Earl of Pembroke, and she swore a vow of perpetual chastity upon his death, when she was sixteen, which she broke by marrying de Montfort. The Archbishop of Canterbury, Edmund Rich, condemned the marriage for this reason. The English nobles protested the marriage of the King's sister to a foreigner of modest rank; most notably, Eleanor's brother Richard, 1st Earl of Cornwall rose up in revolt when he learned of the marriage. King Henry eventually bought off Richard with 6,000 marks and peace was restored.

Relations between King Henry and de Montfort were cordial at first. Henry lent him his support when de Montfort embarked for Rome in March 1238 to seek papal approval for his marriage. When Simon and Eleanor's first son was born in November 1238 (despite rumours, more than nine months after the wedding), he was baptised by Henry in honour of his Royal uncle. In February 1239 de Montfort was finally invested with the Earldom of Leicester. He also acted as the King's counsellor and was one of the nine godfathers of Henry's eldest son, Prince Edward who would inherit the throne and become Edward I ("Longshanks").1

Child of Simon de Montfort and Eleanor Plantagenet

Citations

  1. [S369] Encyclopedia website, by compilation, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_de_Montfort,_6th_Earl_of_Leicester.

Guy de Montfort

M, d. 31 January 1228
Father*Simon III de Montfort
Mother*Amicia de Beaumont
     Guy de Montfort (died 31 January 1228) was the younger son of Simon III de Montfort and Amicia, sister of Robert FitzPernel, Earl of Leicester.

In 1189 he took part in the Third Crusade, and probably remained in the Holy Land until 1192, when Richard the Lionheart returned home. By 1200 or 1201 Guy was acting with his elder brother Simon. By 1202 he held the lordships of Ferté-Alais, Castres-en-Albigeois, and Brétencourt. In that year he and his brother Simon left on the Fourth Crusade, but they disagreed with the Siege of Zara (an attack on a Christian city), and refused to take part in the plan to restore Byzantine Emperor Isaac II Angelus in return for Byzantine money and troops.

They deserted to Emeric, King of Hungary, and eventually the two continued on to Palestine. After arriving at Jaffa, they took part in King Amalric II of Jerusalem's expedition into Galilee. Amalric rewarded Guy's service by arranging his marriage to la dame de Saete (the lady of Sagette), Helvis of Ibelin, the widow of Reginald, Lord of Sidon (which the French called Saete/Sagette). He exercised the regency of Sidon on behalf of his minor stepson Balian until 1210, probably when Balian came of age. Guy then assisted at the coronation of John of Brienne as King of Jerusalem that year.

Guy later returned home and took part in the Albigensian Crusade led by his brother, Simon IV de Montfort. In 1212 they led an unsuccessful siege against Montségur, and in 1213 they participated in the Battle of Muret. They also besieged Beaucaire in 1216. Simon was aiding Guy, who had been injured by a crossbow bolt, at the Siege of Toulouse on 25 June 1218 when he was struck in the head by a stone from a mangonel and killed. The death of Simon and the incompetence of his son Amaury VI of Montfort invigorated the Albigensian lords.

In 1224 Amaury ceded all his territory to Louis VIII of France, who soon arrived to stake his claim. Guy assisted him at the Siege of Avignon, after which Louis died on the way home. Later in the Crusade Guy himself was killed in battle at Vareilles near Pamiers in 1228.[1] He was taken to the abbey of Haute-Bruyère for burial and the necrology there records a conte Gui de Sagette (count Guy of Sidon).

By his first wife, Helvis of Ibelin he had;

Philip, who stayed in the Holy Land and became Lord of Tyre.
Pernelle, who became a nun at the abbey of Saint-Antoine des Champs in Paris.
Sometime before 1224 Guy remarried to Briende de Beynes, the widow of Lambert de Thury, lord of Lombers.

With Briende he had;

Alicia, became a nun at Port-Royal
Agnes, became a nun at Port-Royal
Guy II of Montfort, died on crusade in 1254.1

Citations

  1. [S369] Encyclopedia website, by compilation, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_de_Montfort,_Lord_of_Sidon.

Amaury VI de Montfort

M, b. 1195, d. 1241
Father*Simon IV de Montfort b. 1160, d. 25 Jun 1218
Mother*Alix de Montmorency
     Amaury VI de Montfort (1195 - 1241) was the son of the elder Simon de Montfort and Alice of Montmorency, and the brother of the younger Simon de Montfort.

He participated in the Albigensian Crusade under his father's command. He inherited the County of Toulouse (that his father had taken from Raymond VI of Toulouse as a reward for his role in the Crusade) when his father died, he had to give up the territory to King Louis VIII in 1224. In 1230 Amaury became constable of France, an office previously held by his uncle Mathieu II of Montmorency. In 1239 he participated in the Sixth Crusade and was taken prisoner after the defeat at Gaza. He was imprisoned in Cairo and was freed in 1241, but died the same year in Calabria while on the journey home: his body was carried to Rome and interred in St Peters. His son was Jean I de Montfort.1

Citations

  1. [S369] Encyclopedia website, by compilation, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaury_VI_of_Montfort

Robert de Beaumont

M, d. circa 21 October 1204
Father*Robert de Beaumont b. a 1120, d. 1190
Mother*Petronilla (?)
Name TypeDateDescription
Name VariationRobert de Beaumont was also known as FitzPernel.
     Robert de Beaumont, 4th Earl of Leicester (died circa 21 October 1204) was an English nobleman, the last of the Beaumont earls of Leicester. He is sometimes known as Robert FitzPernel.

Robert was the eldest surviving son of Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester and Petronilla, who was either a granddaughter or great-granddaughter of Hugh de Grandmesnil. As a young man, he accompanied King Richard I on the Third Crusade, and it was while the crusading forces rested at Messina, Sicily that Robert was invested with the Earldom of Leicester in early 1191. (His father had died on his way to the Holy Lands in 1190.)

Robert's newly-gained estates included a large part of central Normandy. He held castles at Pacy, Pont-Saint-Pierre and Grandmesnil. Earl Robert also was lord of the vast honor of Breteuil, but the family castle there had been dismantled after the 1173-1174 War. On his return from the crusade, he turned his attentions to the defense of Normandy from the French. After defending Rouen from the advances of Philip II of France, he attempted to retake his castle of Pacy. He was captured by forces of the French king and remained imprisoned for 3 years. Later, King John would bestow the new fortress and lordship of Radepont (the land of Radepont was traded to King John by the seigneur du Neubourg for lands and revenues in the pays de Caux) upon the earl.

Sometime after his release in 1196 he married Loretta de Braose, daughter of William de Braose, 4th Lord of Bramber. They had no children, and Robert's death in 1204 brought the end of the Beaumont male line.

In the year of his death Normandy was lost to the French; Earl Robert attempted to come to an independent arrangement with King Philip of France, in which he would hold his land in Normandy as a liege-vassal of the Kings of France, and his lands in England as a liege-vassal of the Kings of England. In any event, Robert died that year, but his great English estates were divided between the heirs of his two sisters. The eldest sister, Amicia, had married the French baron Simon de Montfort, and their son, also named Simon de Montfort, inherited half the estate as well as the title of Earl of Leicester. The younger sister, Margaret, had married Saer de Quincy, and they inherited the other half. Three years later Saer was created Earl of Winchester.1

Citations

  1. [S369] Encyclopedia website, by compilation, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_de_Beaumont,_4th_Earl_of_Leicester.

Loretta de Braose

F
Father*William de Braose b. c 1144, d. 9 Aug 1211
Mother*Matilda de St. Valery b. 1155, d. 1210
Name TypeDateDescription
Married Name1196As of 1196,her married name was de Beaumont.

Margaret de Beaumont

F
Father*Robert de Beaumont b. a 1120, d. 1190
Mother*Petronilla (?)
Name TypeDateDescription
Married NameHer married name was de Quincy.

Children of Margaret de Beaumont and Saer de Quincy

Saer de Quincy

M, b. 1155, d. 3 November 1219
Father*Robert de Quincy
Mother*Orabilis of Leuchars
     Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester (1155 – 3rd November 1219) was one of the leaders of the baronial rebellion against King John of England, and a major figure in both Scotland and England in the decades around the turn of the twelfth and thirteenth centuries.

Saer de Quincy's immediate background was in the Scottish kingdom: his father was a knight in the service of king William the Lion, and his mother was the heiress of the lordship of Leuchars in Fife (see below). His rise to prominence in England came through his marriage to Margaret, the younger sister of Robert de Beaumont, 4th Earl of Leicester: but it is probably no coincidence that her other brother was the de Quincys' powerful Fife neighbour, Roger de Beaumont, Bishop of St Andrews. In 1204, Earl Robert died, leaving Margaret as co-heiress of the vast earldom along with her elder sister. The estate was split in half, and after the final division was ratified in 1207, de Quincy was made Earl of Winchester.

Following his marriage, de Quincy became a prominent military and diplomatic figure in England. There is no evidence of any close alliance with King John, however, and his rise to importance was probably due to his newly-acquired magnate status and the family connections that underpinned it.

One man with whom he does seem to have developed a close personal relationship is his cousin, Robert Fitzwalter. They are first found together in 1203, as co-commanders of the garrison at the major fortress of Vaudreuil in Normandy; they were responsible for surrendering the castle without a fight to Philip II of France, fatally weakening the English position in northern France, but although popular opinion seems to have blamed them for the capitulation, a royal writ is extant stating that the castle was surrendered at King John's command, and both Saer and Fitzwalter had to endure personal humiliation and heavy ransoms at the hands of the French.

In Scotland, he was perhaps more successful. In 1211-12, the Earl of Winchester commanded an imposing retinue of a hundred knights and a hundred serjeants in William the Lion's campaign against the Mac William rebels, a force which some historians have suggested may have been the mercenary force from Brabant lent to the campaign by John.

In 1215, when the baronial rebellion broke out, Robert Fitzwalter became the military commander, and the Earl of Winchester joined him, acting as one of the chief negotiators with John; both cousins were among the 25 guarantors of the Magna Carta. De Quincy fought against John in the troubles that followed the signing of the Charter, and, again with Fitzwalter, travelled to France to invite Prince Louis of France to take the English throne. He and Fitzwalter were subsequently among the most committed and prominent supporters of Louis' candidature for the kingship, against both John and the infant Henry III.

When military defeat cleared the way for Henry III to take the throne, de Quincy went on crusade, perhaps in fulfillment of an earlier vow, and in 1219 he left to join the Fifth Crusade, then besieging Damietta. While in the east, he fell sick and died. He was buried in Acre, the capital of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, rather than in Egypt, and his heart was brought back and interred at Garendon Abbey near Loughborough, a house endowed by his wife's family.

The family of de Quincy had arrived in England after the Norman Conquest, and took their name from Cuinchy in the Arrondissement of Béthune; the personal name "Saer" was used by them over several generations. Both names are variously spelled in primary sources and older modern works, the first name being sometimes rendered Saher or Seer, and the surname as Quency or Quenci.

The first recorded Saer de Quincy (known to historians as "Saer I") was lord of the manor of Long Buckby in Northamptonshire in the earlier twelfth century, and second husband of Matilda of St Liz, stepdaughter of King David I of Scotland by Maud of Northumbria. This marriage produced two sons, Saer II and Robert de Quincy. It was Robert, the younger son, who was the father of the Saer de Quincy who eventually became Earl of Winchester. By her first husband Robert Fitz Richard, Matilda was also the paternal grandmother of Earl Saer's close ally, Robert Fitzwalter.

Robert de Quincy seems to have inherited no English lands from his father, and pursued a knightly career in Scotland, where he is recorded from around 1160 as a close companion of his cousin, King William the Lion. By 1170 he had married Orabilis, heiress of the Scottish lordship of Leuchars and, through her, he became lord of an extensive complex of estates north of the border which included lands in Fife, Strathearn and Lothian.

Saer de Quincy, the son of Robert de Quincy and Orabilis of Leuchars, was raised largely in Scotland. His absence from English records for the first decades of his life has led some modern historians and genealogists to confuse him with his uncle, Saer II, who took part in the rebellion of Henry the Young King in 1173, when the future Earl of Winchester can have been no more than a toddler. Saer II's line ended without direct heirs, and his nephew and namesake would eventually inherit his estate, uniting his primary Scottish holdings with the family's Northamptonshire patrimony, and possibly some lands in France.

By his wife Margaret de Beaumont, Saer de Quincy had three sons and three daughters:

Lorette who married Sir William de Valognes
Arabella who married Sir Richard Harcourt
Robert (d. 1217), before 1206 he married Hawise of Chester, Countess of Lincoln, sister and co-heiress of Ranulf de Blundeville, Earl of Chester.
Roger, who succeeded his father as earl of Winchester (though he did not take formal possession of the earldom until after his mother's death);
Robert de Quincy (second son of that name; d. 1257) who married Helen, daughter of the Welsh prince Llywelyn the Great;
Hawise, who married Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford.1

Children of Saer de Quincy and Margaret de Beaumont

Citations

  1. [S369] Encyclopedia website, by compilation, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saer_de_Quincy,_1st_Earl_of_Winchester.

Robert de Quincy

M
Father*Saer I de Quincy
Mother*Matilda of St Liz

Child of Robert de Quincy and Orabilis of Leuchars

Orabilis of Leuchars

F
Name TypeDateDescription
Married NameHer married name was de Quincy.

Child of Orabilis of Leuchars and Robert de Quincy

Hawise de Quincy

F
Father*Saer de Quincy b. 1155, d. 3 Nov 1219
Mother*Margaret de Beaumont
Name TypeDateDescription
Married NameHer married name was de Vere.

Child of Hawise de Quincy and Hugh de Vere

Hugh de Vere

M, b. circa 1210, d. December 1263
Father*Robert de Vere d. 1221
Mother*Isabel de Bolebec b. 1165, d. 3 Feb 1245
     Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford (c. 1210–December, 1263) was the only child and heir of Robert de Vere, 3rd Earl of Oxford, born circa 1208. When his father died in 1221, his mother Isabel de Bolebec paid for wardship of her son and heir. Hugh did homage for his earldom in 1231. He was knighted around the same time.

He supposedly took part in the Seventh Crusade in 1248–1254. He purchased the right to hold a market at the town on his primary estate, Castle Hedingham in Essex, and founded a nunnery there as well. Hugh married Hawise de Quincy, daughter of Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester, and his wife, Margaret de Beaumont. When he died in 1263, he was succeeded by his son Robert de Vere, 5th Earl of Oxford.1

Child of Hugh de Vere and Hawise de Quincy

Citations

  1. [S369] Encyclopedia website, by compilation, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_de_Vere,_4th_Earl_of_Oxford.

Robert de Vere

M, d. 1221
Father*Aubrey III de Vere b. c 1115, d. Dec 1194
Mother*Agnes of Essex b. c 1151, d. c 1212
     Robert de Vere (died 1221) was the second surviving son of Aubrey de Vere III, first earl of Oxford, and Agnes of Essex. Almost nothing of his life is known until he married in 1207 the widow Isabel de Bolebec, the aunt and co-heiress of his deceased sister-in-law. The couple had one child, a son, Hugh, later 4th earl of Oxford. When Robert's brother Aubrey de Vere IV, 2nd earl of Oxford died in Oct. 1214, Robert succeeded to his brother's title, estates, castles, and hereditary office of master chamberlain of England (later Lord Great Chamberlain). He swiftly joined the disaffected barons in opposition to King John; many among the rebels were his kinsmen. He was elected one of the twenty-five barons who were to ensure the king's adherence to the terms of Magna Carta, and as such was excommunicated by Pope Innocent III in 1215.

King John besieged and took Castle Hedingham, Essex, from Robert in March 1216 and gave his lands to a loyal baron. While this prompted Robert to swear loyalty to the king soon thereafter, he nonetheless did homage to Prince Louis when the French prince arrived in Rochester later that year. He remained in the rebel camp until Oct. 1217, when he did homage to the boy-king Henry III, but he was not fully restored in his offices and lands until Feb. 1218.[1]

At this time, aristocratic marriages were routinely contracted after negotiations over dowry and dower. In most cases, dower lands were assigned from the estates held by the groom at the time of the marriage. If specific dower lands were not named, on the death of the husband the widow was entitled to one-third of his estate. When Robert's brother Earl Aubrey married a second time, he did not name a dower for his wife Alice, for Robert determined the division of his estate by having lots drawn. For each manor his sister-in-law drew, he drew two. This is the sole known case of assigning dower lands in this manner.

Robert served as a king's justice in 1220-21, and died in Oct. 1221. He was buried at Hatfield Regis Priory, where his son Earl Hugh or grandson Earl Robert later had an effigy erected. Earl Robert is depicted in chain mail, cross-legged, pulling his sword from its scabbard and holding a shield with the arms of the Veres. [2]1

Child of Robert de Vere and Isabel de Bolebec

Citations

  1. [S369] Encyclopedia website, by compilation, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_de_Vere,_3rd_Earl_of_Oxford.

Agnes of Essex

F, b. circa 1151, d. circa 1212
Name TypeDateDescription
Married NameHer married name was de Vere.
     Agnes of Essex, countess of Oxford (c. 1151 – c. 1212) was the daughter of Henry of Essex and his second wife. She was betrothed at age three to Geoffrey de Vere, brother of the first earl of Oxford, and turned over to the Veres soon thereafter. Agnes later rejected the match with Geoffrey and by 1163 had married his brother Aubrey de Vere III, the earl (died 1194), as his third wife.

After her father's disgrace and forfeiture of lands and offices in that year, the earl sought to have his marriage annulled. Agnes fought the action. On May 9, 1166, she appealed her case from the court of the bishop of London to the pope (the archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas Becket, being in exile at the time). While the case was pending in Rome, the earl kept Agnes confined in one of his three castles, for which the bishop of London Gilbert Foliot reprimanded Aubrey. Pope Alexander III ruled in her favor, thus establishing the right and requirement of consent by females in betrothal and the sacrament of marriage.

The couple may have co-operated in the founding of a Benedictine nunnery near their castle at Castle Hedingham, Essex. Countess Agnes survived her husband and paid the crown for the right to remain unmarried in 1198. She died sometime in or after 1212 and was buried in the Vere mausoleum, Colne Priory, Essex.

Many have followed the mistake of antiquarians in believing the third wife of earl Aubrey to have been named Lucia. A woman of this name was prioress at Castle Hedingham Priory. On Lucia's death, a mortuary or roll was carried to many religious houses in the region requesting prayers, and in the preface of that document Lucia is called the foundress of the priory. As the countess presumably cooperated with her husband in the founding of the house, the erroneous assumption was made that the prioress was in fact the earl's widow.[1]

Agnes bore her husband four sons and a daughter, including two future earls of Oxford: Aubrey IV and Robert I. Her daughter Alice married 1) Ernulf de Kemesech, 2) John, constable of Chester. Their son Henry may have become chancellor of Hereford Cathedral in the bishopric of his uncle, William de Vere, and later a royal clerk under King John of England.[2]1

Children of Agnes of Essex and Aubrey III de Vere

Citations

  1. [S369] Encyclopedia website, by compilation, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_of_Essex

Geoffrey de Vere

M
Father*Aubrey II de Vere b. c 1080, d. 1141
Mother*Alice de Clare b. c 1077, d. 1163

Aubrey IV de Vere

M, d. 1214
Father*Aubrey III de Vere b. c 1115, d. Dec 1194
Mother*Agnes of Essex b. c 1151, d. c 1212

Saer I de Quincy

M

Children of Saer I de Quincy and Matilda of St Liz

Saer II de Quincy

M
Father*Saer I de Quincy
Mother*Matilda of St Liz

Simon of St Liz

M, d. 1109
Name TypeDateDescription
Name VariationSimon of St Liz was also known as de Senlis.

Children of Simon of St Liz and Maud of Northumbria

Walteof of St Liz

M, b. 1100, d. circa 1159
Father*Simon of St Liz d. 1109
Mother*Maud of Northumbria b. 1074, d. 1130
Name TypeDateDescription
Name VariationWalteof of St Liz was also known as de Senlis.

Simon II de Senlis

M, d. 1153
Father*Simon of St Liz d. 1109
Mother*Maud of Northumbria b. 1074, d. 1130
     Simon II de Senlis (died 1153) was an Anglo-Norman nobleman. He was the son of Simon I de Senlis, Earl of Huntingdon-Northampton and Maud, Countess of Huntingdon. He married Isabel, daughter of Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester.

He was prominent in The Anarchy, fighting for Stephen of England in 1141 at the Battle of Lincoln. He continued to support Stephen's side; R. H. C. Davis calls him 'staunch' and 'consistently loyal'[1] and surmises that Simon calculated that if the Empress Matilda won, his earldom of Northampton would be taken over by David of Scotland.[2]

Simon was rewarded by becoming Earl of Huntingdon. He died in 1153 just before Henry II of England took over.1

Citations

  1. [S369] Encyclopedia website, by compilation, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_II_de_St_Liz,_4th_Earl_of_Huntingdon_and_Northampton.

Isabel de Beaumont

F, b. after 1120
Father*Robert de Beaumont b. 1104, d. 5 Apr 1168
Mother*Amica de Gael
Name TypeDateDescription
Married NameHer married name was de Senlis.

Elen ferch Llywelyn

F, b. circa 1206, d. 1253
Father*Prince Llywelyn the Great ab Iorwerth b. c 1173, d. 11 Apr 1240
Mother*Joan Plantagenet b. c 1191, d. 2 Feb 1237
Name TypeDateDescription
Married NameHer married name was de Quincy.
Name VariationElen ferch Llywelyn was also known as Helen.
     Elen ferch Llywelyn (c. 1206 – 1253) was the daughter of Llywelyn the Great of Gwynedd in north Wales by Lady Joan, daughter of King John of England.

Elen married John de Scotia, Earl of Chester, in about 1222. He died aged thirty in 1237, and she was forced by King Henry III to marry Sir Robert de Quincy. Their daughter, Hawise, married Baldwin Wake, Lord Wake of Lidel. Hawise and Baldwin’s granddaughter, Margaret Wake, was the mother of Joan of Kent, later Princess of Wales. Thus the blood of Llywelyn Fawr passed into the English royal family through King Richard II.1

Child of Elen ferch Llywelyn and Robert de Quincy

Citations

  1. [S369] Encyclopedia website, by compilation, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elen_ferch_Llywelyn

Robert de Quincy

M, d. 1257
Father*Saer de Quincy b. 1155, d. 3 Nov 1219
Mother*Margaret de Beaumont

Child of Robert de Quincy and Elen ferch Llywelyn

Hawise de Quincy

F
Father*Robert de Quincy d. 1257
Mother*Elen ferch Llywelyn b. c 1206, d. 1253
Name TypeDateDescription
Married NameHer married name was Wake.

Child of Hawise de Quincy and Baldwin Wake

Baldwin Wake

M, b. before 1241, d. 1282
Father*Hugh Wake d. 1241
Mother*Joan de Stuteville
Name TypeDateDescription
Name VariationBaldwin Wake was also known as Baldewinus.
     Baldwin Wake, knight (d. 1282) had been a rebellious baron under Henry III and was taken prisoner by Lord Edward at the siege of Kenilworth in 1265. The main seat of the Wakes at this time seems to have been at Bilsworth, Northamptonshire but they also had lands in Yorkshire and Bedfordshire. Baldwin's father Hugh Wake of Liddell, Sheriff of Yorkshire, died in Jerusalem about 1241 and various online genealogies gives a year of birth between 1236-8, which seems probable. His son John was to become Lord Wake Liddell in 1295.
'1264, when Stevington Manor passed to Hadwisa wife of Baldwin Wake, one of the daughters and co-heirs of Robert de Quincy. Baldwin Wake died in 1281–2, leaving a son John, and in 1284 Hadwisa Wake rendered feudal service for Stevington.' (VCH)
Hawisa de Quincy (c. 1250-c. 1295) dau Robert de Quincy, Lord of Ware (younger son of the 1st Earl of Winchester) and Helen ap Llywelyn (dau of Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of North Wales). Lord Wake of Lidel.

Child of Baldwin Wake and Hawise de Quincy

John Wake

M, b. 1268, d. 1300
Father*Baldwin Wake b. b 1241, d. 1282
Mother*Hawise de Quincy

Children of John Wake and Joan de Fiennes

Joan de Fiennes

F, b. circa 1273, d. 1309
Father*William II de Fiennes b. c 1250, d. 11 Jul 1302
Mother*Blanche de Brienne b. c 1252, d. c 1302
Name TypeDateDescription
Married Namecirca 1291As of circa 1291,her married name was Wake.

Children of Joan de Fiennes and John Wake